Rather like something stuck in my teeth, I've continued worrying over variations to the Swarmlord list below. After some solid discussions w/YTTH crowd I came up with a "traditional" list; i.e. 2 tervs, 2 tfexes as the core. It's built to take fire and keep coming, with regen on the tfexes and a prime to keep Swarmy company and play wound allocation games:
Variant 1: Swarmlord Deathstar
Swarmy + 3 tyrant guard w/lash: 280+195
prime w/lash, sword, rending, AG: 105
tervigon w/ag, ts, catalyst, scything: 200
10x termagant: 50
tervigon w/ag, ts, catalyst, scything: 200
10x termagant: 50
2x hg: 100
2x hg: 100
16x gargoyles w/ts, ag: 128
tyrannofex, rupture, regen: 295
tyrannofex, rupture, regen: 295
1998 pts
Overall, this looks like a pretty tough list to deal with, but it will have trouble dealing with the opponent's maneuver. The concept also went away from the hammer/anvil idea of a Swarmlord/Parasite combo. Keeping that theme is pretty tough, but this is what I came up with:
Variant 2: Hammer and Sickle
Swarmy + 3 tyrant guard w/lash: 280+195
Tervigon w/ag, ts, catalyst, scything: 200
10x Termagant: 50
Tervigon w/ag, ts, catalyst, scything: 200
10x Termagant: 50
2x hg: 100
2x hg: 100
Parasite of Mo : 160
Doom in a spod w/barbed: 145
22x Gargoyles w/ts, ag: 176
Harpy w/tlhvc: 170
Harpy w/tlhvc: 170
1996 pts
Doom and harpies should keep people on their toes while the parasite/gargs go for the center/obj or whatever. Tervs/Swarmy just get to lumber forward and do what they do.
The third list trades the reserves and drop shenanigans for a 3-wave assault; parasite+gargs, trygons w/regen, and then swarmy+tervs. It trades the 2 big-gun toting MCs for 2 fast assaulting MCs.
Variant 3: Hold it still till I get there!
Swarmy + 3 tyrant guard w/lash: 280+195
Tervigon w/ag, ts, catalyst, scything: 200
10x Termagant: 50
Tervigon w/ag, ts, catalyst, scything: 200
10x Termagant: 50
3x hg: 150
2x hg: 100
Parasite of Mo : 160
18x Gargoyles w/ts, ag: 144
Tryon w/ag, regen: 235
Trygon w/ag, regen: 235
1999
Now I just need to figure out how to work Vassal so I can playtest a bit.
Thanks for the reply in my tyranofex analysis. I really like what you are doing on this blog for the tyranids. I have added you to my blogroll. Seriously man, the bugs need it as the rest of the net loves to hate them.
ReplyDeleteThe second and third lists are really nice. I like the idea of the parasite and the swarmlord working together this way. Swarmy draws so much fire that the parasite is likely to be ignored. The problem just comes in getting the enemy's vehicles open, but that can be achieved when the trygons get there. I think the trygon list is strong and gives you a good fighting chance against mech IG and other strong mech lists, while allowing you to roll over foot or hybrid lists with your speed. I suggest trying this stuff out and posting some batreps. Hell, once I get my gargs, I think I might try the third list.
ReplyDeleteI have just seen list 2 & 3 on OST's blog.
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I am surprised by the lack of Regen on the Prime? My T-fexs almost never seem to die so I would probably drop their Regen and strip the Gargoyles down to basic and use the points for two more Hive Guard.
Is your plan to advance Swarmy with the T-fex or just charge him full steam at the enemy?
Although not personal experience, I see the continuing thread of tfexes being a royal pain to bring down. List 1 builds on that as its intent is to muck with target priority: swarmy with 3 tg's and a prime can absorb quite a bit of fire - or either of the regen'd tfexes. Its basically the typical tyranid conga line, led by the tfexes.
ReplyDeleteI've debated dropping the gargs from that list entirely in order to add in more HGs and get regen on the prime.
I finally got 'round to installing Win7 over the holidays, so I'll finally be able to get Vassal and/or BattleChronicler running so I can *finally* get some playtesting in.
Does Vassel not run on XP? I have never tried it.
ReplyDeleteThe idea of regeneration T-fex seems good; I shall aim to give lists one and three a try at some point; it will not be for a while though as I am busy at Uni for the next few months.
Oh it does - I just didn't really try to figure out how to use it until I got Win7 going as changing from WinXP to Win7 requires a reload of all programs.
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